Konversation 2.x in 2018: New user interface, Matrix support, mobile version

It's time to talk about exciting new things in store for the Konversation project!

Konversation is KDE's chat application for communities. No matter whether someone is a newcomer seeking community, a seasoned participant in one, or a community administrator: our mission is to bring groups of people together, allow them to delight in each other's company, and support their pursuit of shared interests and goals.

One of the communities we monitor for changes to your needs is our own: KDE. Few things make a Konversation hacker happier than journeying to an event like Akademy in Almería, Spain and seeing our app run on many screens all around.

The KDE community has recently made progress defining what it wants out of a chat solution in the near future. To us, those initial results align very strongly with Konversation's mission and display a lot of overlap with the things it does well. However, they also highlight trends where the current generation of Konversation falls short, e.g. support for persistence across network jumps, mobile device support and better media/file handling.

This evolution in KDE's needs matches what we're seeing in other communities we cater to. Recently we've started a new development effort to try and answer those needs.

Enter Konversation 2.x

Konversation 2.x R&D mockup screenshot
Obligatory tantilizing sneak preview (click to enlarge)

Konversation 2.x will be deserving of the version bump, revamping the user interface and bringing the application to new platforms. Here's a rundown of our goals:

  • A more modern, cleaner user interface, built using Qt Quick and KDE's Kirigami technology
    • Adopting a responsive window layout, supporting more varied desktop use cases and putting us on a path towards becoming a desktop/mobile convergent application
    • Scaling to more groups with an improved tab switcher featuring better-integrated notifications and mentions
    • Redesigned and thoroughly cleaned-up settings, including often-requested per-tab settings
    • Richer theming, including a night mode and a small selection of popular chat text layouts for different needs
  • Improved media/file handling, including image sharing, a per-tab media gallery, and link previews
  • A reduced resource footprint, using less memory and battery power
  • Support for the Matrix protocol
  • Supporting a KDE-wide Global and Modern Text Input initiative, in particular for emoji input
  • Versions for Plasma Mobile and Android
  • Updating Konversation's web presence

Let's briefly expand on a few of those:


KDE's Kirigami user interface technology helps developers make applications that run well on both desktop and mobile form factors. While still a young project, too, it's already being put to good use in projects such as Peruse, Calligra Gemini, Gwenview, and others. When we tried it out Kirigami quickly proved useful to us as well. We've been enjoying a great working relationship with the Kirigami team, with code flowing both ways. Check it out!

Design process

To craft the new user interface, we're collaborating with KDE's Visual Design Group. Within the KDE community, the VDG itself is a driver of new requirements for chat applications (as their collaboration workflows differ substantially from coding contributors). We've been combining our experience listening to many years of user feedback with their design chops, and this has lead to an array of design mockups we've been working from so far. This is just the beginning, with many, many details left to hammer out together - we're really grateful for the help! :)


Currently we're focused on bringing more of the new UI online, proving it on top of our robust IRC backend. However, Matrix support will come next. While we have no plans to drop support for IRC, we feel the Matrix protocol has emerged as a credible alternative that retains many of IRC's best qualities while better supporting modern needs (and bridging to IRC). We're excited about what it will let us do and want to become your Matrix client of choice next year!

Work done so far

The screenshot shown above is sort of a functional R&D mockup of where we're headed with the new interface. It runs, it chats - more on how to try it out in a moment - but it's quite incomplete, wonky, and in a state of flux. Here's a few more demonstrations and explorations of what it can do:

Repsonsive window layout
Responsive window layout: Front-and-center vs. small-and-in-a-corner (click for smoother HD/YouTube)

Toggling settings mode
Friction-free switching to and from settings mode (click for smoother HD/YouTube

Overlay context sidebar
Overlay context sidebar: Tab settings and media gallery will go here (click to enlarge)

See a gallery with an additional screenshot of the settings mode.

Trying it out

The work is being carried out on the wip/qtquick branch of konversation.git. It needs Qt 5.9 and the master branch of kirigami.git to build and run, respectively. We also have a Flatpak nightly package soon on the way, pending sorting out some dependency issues.

Be sure to check out this wiki page with build and testing instructions. You'll learn how to retrieve either the sources or the Flatpak, as well as a number of command line arguments that are key when test-driving.

Sneak preview of great neat-ness: It's possible to toggle between the old and new Konversation UIs at any time using the F10 key. This makes dogfooding at this early stage much more palatable!

Joining the fun

We're just starting out to use this workboard on KDE's Phabricator instance to track and coordinate tasks. Subscribe and participate! Phabricator is also the platform of choice to submit code contributions.

As noted above, Konversation relies on Kirigami and the VDG. Both projects welcome new contributors. Helping them out helps Konversation!

To chat with us, you can stop by the #konversation and #kde-vdg channels on freenode (using IRC or the Matrix bridge). Hop on and introduce yourself!

Side note: The Kirigami team plans to show up in force at the KDE Randa meeting this fall to hack on things the Konversation team is very much interested in, including expanding support for keyboard navigation in Kirigami UI. Check out the Randa fundraising campaign which e.g. enables KDE to bring more devs along, it's really appreciated!


One thing I'm curious about, given the UX examples - do you intend to handle Matrix room tags? Currently, in Matrix, one can attach "tags" to rooms, which are a mapping from strings to floating-point numbers. In Riot, this results in the rooms being grouped by tags (appearing multiple times if they have more than one tag), sorted under each tag by the numeric value.

The relevant part of the matrix spec is here, and here's a screenshot of what it looks like:

(Note that I have altered the fonts via custom CSS).

My tags are (currently) dominated by "which bridged IRC server, if any, is the room on" as a holdover from, well, Konversation - but categories like these are intensely useful.

By eternaleye at Tue, 09/12/2017 - 17:50

Yep, very likely. (The room switcher in the screenshot is very barebones/placeholder currently, but we want to spend quite some effort on it, including surfacing mentions outside the viewport, etc.)

Matrix' impending support for groups and the resulting namespacing changes are also going to shake things up.

By eike hein at Tue, 09/12/2017 - 19:03

Wow, this UI looks amazing. I'm comparing it with screenshots on the Konversation website, and it's like night and day. The current/old interface is looking very dated, and frankly not very readable or usable (in my opinion). This new interface presented in the blog post looks wonderful, very modern, clean, and beautiful!

By Chris Tucker at Tue, 09/12/2017 - 21:53

Can't agree with you. Such UI is good for tablets with touchscreens, but isn't as good for desktops with mouse and huge display. I use Konversations every day, and one of the very important feature is that the chat is so vertically compact that I can fit 100 messages in fullscreen.

By ValdikSS at Wed, 10/11/2017 - 08:14

Don't worry, a vertically compact layout will be available.

By eike hein at Wed, 10/11/2017 - 16:33

Is there any progress on the matrix support?
Is there a way to run this version from git?

By Brons at Sun, 12/17/2017 - 03:39

Check here for git info:

Matrix support isn't in yet. Sorry, few pairs of hands and lots of last-minute business travel these last few months! Check back in the new year.

By eike hein at Thu, 12/21/2017 - 10:49

I don't mean to sound snarky, but it looks like it was created for gnome. I'm not a fan. I have nothing better to offer, so take my comments for what they are worth. (Nothing.)

By rexbinary at Thu, 01/18/2018 - 21:29

Yeah, I'm afraid I don't really see any aesthetic similarity to Gnome stuff, even :) Especially considering it takes a fair bit from the Kirigami HIG, which is a very KDE thing.

By eike hein at Fri, 01/19/2018 - 10:32

no more news or movement in git repo 2 years after... :(

By victorhck at Mon, 07/08/2019 - 15:21