An Ubuntu Community that is a Community
If like Martin Owens you're feeling the lack of Ubuntu community and wanting an Ubuntu community that cares about everyone's contribution, doesn't make random announcements every couple of days that have obviously been made behind closed doors and cares about a community made upstream desktop (and err.. whole graphics stack), you'd be very welcome here at Kubuntu. Join us in #kubuntu-devel
I like the subtlety of that
I like the subtlety of that post. Keep up the good work Kubuntu :)
I must admit that I have mixed feelings here. I love Kubuntu and the work that you put into it. From an outsider's (or end-users?) perspective, it looks a lot like you deserve better support than you are getting through Canonical and Ubuntu. As I understand, this is where Blue Systems comes in and that is great. However, clearly Canonical is still a huge influence.
I, like many people, have Ubuntu to thank for opening the world of linux up to me. However, at this point, the association of Kubuntu with Ubuntu leaves (putting it nicely) a bitter taste in my mouth. Perhaps I am being too foward here (and if I am, all apologies), but is there a move in order?
it's sort of a mixed bag
The move does mean that Qt 5 will be essential for Ubuntu, so maybe, when it comes down to it, this change means that Ubuntu and Kubuntu will be closer technologically. In a few years Kubuntu might look to the Debian upstream more for X11 and Wayland support, but it will be interesting to see what goes on at the application layer as Unity and KDE will start to have a lot in common.
There are lot's of upstream/downstream relationships in open source. It works. Not everyone has to be best friends.
Technological proximity is
Technological proximity is worth nothing when Ubuntu applications are written using custom Qt Components which make them totally clash with existing look and feel.
What I am advertising when someone asks how to write applications now, I suggest pure Qt applications. On desktops they automatically fit rather well into existing GNOME and KDE setups and on mobiles Qt is the premier framework for BlackBerry 10.
It would be much cooler to call it a Kommunity