NOV
21
2007

KDE 3.96 and KDE Four Live 0.7

The so called "Release Candidate" of KDE 4.0 has been released, with packages for openSUSE available. The KDE Four Live CD release 0.7 contains them. I looks like whatever will be released or presented at the event which was scheduled by marketing/sponsor to happen in January will be only used by very early adopters. Hopefully openSUSE 11.0 will be able to ship some KDE 4.1.x release or some very high KDE 4.0.x release (which saw some light features freeze lift).

Comments

Well, the event was scheduled knowing that KDE 4.0 would not be the end product of the 4.x series. We're very focused on the future of KDE 4, but we wanted to ensure that we weren't invisible while waiting for 4.x to mature. Plus, we built in delays to the schedule when we picked our date. The release date seems to be inching closer and closer to our event date over time...

Too bad about opensuse not shipping early, but I understand how you'd want to make a major change during a major distro release rather than a point release. If packages are available, your users will be happy.


By troy.unrau at Wed, 11/21/2007 - 18:13

> Well, the event was scheduled knowing that KDE 4.0 would not be the end product of the 4.x series. We're very focused on the future of KDE 4, but we wanted to ensure that we weren't invisible while waiting for 4.x to mature.

So you don't want to say that there is no pressure to release a "KDE 4.0" in December/before January event because of this?

> Plus, we built in delays to the schedule when we picked our date.

I guess we can agree that the delays were not sufficient? Can we draw the right consequence?

> Too bad about opensuse not shipping early, but I understand how you'd want to make a major change during a major distro release rather than a point release.

Ship early? I suspect you don't know when the next openSUSE is due and that openSUSE doesn't have major and minor releases.


By at Thu, 11/22/2007 - 04:57

As a longtime KDE user, I'm pretty down on KDE 4 in its current shape. If this is what you call a release candidate, man, I'll be sticking with KDE 3.x for the foreseeable future.

I can appreciate that there's a lot of work that's gone on "under the hood" that users can't see. But what users can see is this:

  • A kicker bar replacement (what is it, a plasma widget now?) that has a lot less functionality than what it's replacing. Hell, you can't even get the "system tray" into it; the system tray's been floating out in space for a while now. Context menus? Other than for minimized apps, what context menus?
  • A "System Settings" applet that has a lot less functionality than KControl. (Plus, it looks like it came straight from Kubuntu. Erm.)
  • You can't even put a damn icon on the desktop yet!
  • Dolphin, compared to Konqueror in "filemanagement" mode...well, it sucks. (At least you can still run Konqueror in filemanagement mode. KControl's just gone.)
  • No way to change out the "kickoff" menu for the old "K menu" (no offense meant to the openSUSE guys).

What we see is a bunch of cute, Superkaramba-like widgets we can put on the desktop. And (other than improvements that've been made to the KDE suite of apps and utilities) that, plus eye candy, looks like the sum total of the new KDE 4 GUI.


By eco2geek at Sat, 11/24/2007 - 01:42

I have time to wait until the finished product is stable, it is for free not like windows that you have to pay for and not safe like openSUSE.
All the stuff from OPENSUSE doing very very well,just continue good work.

Sincerely opapapa


By opapapa at Tue, 11/27/2007 - 00:52